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by CrystalMV
Oct 3, 2011 2:24 pm
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: Meat for survival
Replies: 20
Views: 6876

Re: Meat for survival

You're wrong. Meat industry workers don't pay exceptionally high taxes. They pay as much of them as people working in other jobs do. There's no way for them to make up for everything that was wasted. Also, just because meat industry isn't supported in Lithuania as much as in USA, that doesn't mean i...
by CrystalMV
Sep 20, 2011 6:55 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Humans can survive without meat... but how will they evolve?
Replies: 40
Views: 21099

Re: Humans can survive without meat... but how will they evo

No, the vast, vast majority of people have eaten meat and still do eat meat. Vegitarians throuhgout history have been almost irrelevant in terms of people per capita. My point still stands. Societies that predominantly eat meat have survived through to the modern day, this implies that meat causes ...
by CrystalMV
Sep 10, 2011 7:16 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan
Replies: 58
Views: 10185

Re: The Reason Why There Is No Such Thing As A Vegan

AdamD can you provide reference for each product that supposedly has animal ingredients and is used by vegans? Because most of the products you listed have vegan versions. I guess he can't. This is a simplified version of his logic: animals are used for food, everyone eats food and that means nobod...
by CrystalMV
Aug 29, 2011 9:29 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: Meat for survival
Replies: 20
Views: 6876

Re: Meat for survival

The aforementioned illegal trades directly impact the wellbeing of fellow humans. The meat industry does not. Well, who pays subsidy money to keep this resource wasting industry alive? Of course, people who pay taxes. You seem not to have read my post. So, what about people who do not work in meat ...
by CrystalMV
Aug 22, 2011 4:58 pm
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: Meat for survival
Replies: 20
Views: 6876

Re: Meat for survival

What about people who do NOT work in meat industry? Why should they pay taxes and support the industry which wastes food? Are people doing nothing useful and getting tax money more important than those who work hard and pay taxes?
by CrystalMV
Aug 19, 2011 2:37 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Humans can survive without meat... but how will they evolve?
Replies: 40
Views: 21099

Re: Humans can survive without meat... but how will they evo

From an anthropological perspective, every existing human society is omnivorous. This indicates that humans are meant to be omnivorous. You just proved that you can't even compare adequately. You say there are no societies where everyone is vegetarian and ignore the fact that there are no societies...
by CrystalMV
Jun 7, 2011 2:17 pm
Forum: How to build a Vegan World
Topic: Steps to achieve a vegan world
Replies: 10
Views: 3840

Re: Steps to achieve a vegan world

And don't care what AdamD says.
by CrystalMV
Jun 6, 2011 1:56 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Humans can survive without meat... but how will they evolve?
Replies: 40
Views: 21099

Re: Humans can survive without meat... but how will they evo

If meat eaters evolved, they would have discovered evolution, but they didn't. Also, humans are herbivores and this is made evident by the fact that there are no societies where everyone eats meat.
by CrystalMV
Apr 14, 2011 4:22 pm
Forum: How to build a Vegan World
Topic: why people are not vegans?
Replies: 24
Views: 6906

Re: why people are not vegans?

Because animal products are psychoactive. Meat contains stress hormones and xanthines, which cause stimulant effects. Dairy products have casomorphins, which are opioids. When people get addicted to these drugs, animal products look tasty to them.
by CrystalMV
Apr 7, 2011 5:30 pm
Forum: Veggie Questions and Answers
Topic: A matter of perspective
Replies: 26
Views: 5043

Re: A matter of perspective

All of these products come from cattle

Wrong. SOME products of all these types come from cattle.

And now look how lame that logic is: should we waste so many resources just because doing so is one (and the most wasteful) of the ways to get the products which you have listed?
by CrystalMV
Apr 6, 2011 5:19 pm
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: Fruit juice can be harmful to teeth
Replies: 21
Views: 6231

Re: Fruit juice can be harmful to teeth

Fruit juice can be very harmful to teeth, especially when it's frozen to the ice and you beat your teeth with it :)
by CrystalMV
Mar 29, 2011 2:50 pm
Forum: Veggie Questions and Answers
Topic: A matter of perspective
Replies: 26
Views: 5043

Re: A matter of perspective

This is the practical side of things: where the grass grows, plants suitable for direct consumption could be grown and less area would be needed.
by CrystalMV
Mar 24, 2011 4:02 pm
Forum: Veggie Questions and Answers
Topic: A matter of perspective
Replies: 26
Views: 5043

Re: A matter of perspective

This is the basic logic: There are two types of food: A and B. You have some food A and you can convert it into food B. Energy conversion efficiency is 10%. A = 2 B = 0 Food = A+B = 2 If you want to have some food B, you need to convert food A to food B. A = 2-1 = 1 B = 1*10%/100% = 0.1 Food = A+B =...
by CrystalMV
Mar 23, 2011 3:00 pm
Forum: Veggie Questions and Answers
Topic: A matter of perspective
Replies: 26
Views: 5043

Re: A matter of perspective

You need to learn physics because you clearly don't know the law of conservation of energy.
by CrystalMV
Mar 21, 2011 9:30 pm
Forum: Veggie Questions and Answers
Topic: Vegetarianism - A Form Of Child Abuse
Replies: 10
Views: 9616

Re: Vegetarianism - A Form Of Child Abuse

Those antivegans are so annoying. Naturally plants contain all nutrients which human body needs. In unnatural conditions, where some nutrients are lost, it's not any better for meat eaters than it is for vegans. Animals in factory farms are fed all kinds of supplements, otherwise they wouldn't survi...
by CrystalMV
Mar 11, 2011 2:07 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Humans can survive without meat... but how will they evolve?
Replies: 40
Views: 21099

Re: Humans can survive without meat... but how will they evo

Just because meat has mutagens, it doesn't mean that humans can't evolve without it. If meat eaters are so intelligent, why didn't they manage to invent a light bulb or scissors? For sure, they have invented many other things, but they wouldn't have done that without the help of vegetarians. Finally...
by CrystalMV
Nov 16, 2010 2:23 pm
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: Plants are no different than Animals
Replies: 52
Views: 19843

Re: Plants are no different than Animals

There is nothing wrong with eating plants because humans wouldn't survive otherwise. There is no proof that they feel pain. Do plants form scabs because they want to? What about humans? Do they recover from injuries because they DECIDE to or because their body is designed in that way? Some people do...
by CrystalMV
Nov 7, 2010 4:01 pm
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: Stuck in a debate
Replies: 8
Views: 3180

Re: Stuck in a debate

Try to compare speciesism with racism or other kind of discrimination. For example, when someone says to me that animal exploitation is nothing bad because it's legal, I compare it with slavery. It was legal in the past and what speciesists say about animals is the same what slaveholders used to say...
by CrystalMV
Nov 5, 2010 11:52 am
Forum: Veggie Questions and Answers
Topic: Wild game vs domestic meat?
Replies: 12
Views: 7751

Re: Wild game vs domestic meat?

Then maybe organic meat is healthy too :D People often say that because it's healthier. But jumping from the top of 5 story building is less dangerous than jumping from the top of 10 story building, so it's healthy too :D
by CrystalMV
Nov 4, 2010 5:11 pm
Forum: Veggie Questions and Answers
Topic: Wild game vs domestic meat?
Replies: 12
Views: 7751

Re: Wild game vs domestic meat?

Is organic cocaine healthy?
by CrystalMV
Nov 4, 2010 5:09 pm
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: prevent other animals from killing and eating each other?
Replies: 38
Views: 27502

Re: prevent other animals from killing and eating each other

Yes, we should prevent other animals from killing each other for pleasure. But I find it hard to believe this could happen without an intervention of human.
by CrystalMV
Nov 4, 2010 5:00 pm
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: 8 Reasons You Should Stop Drinking Milk Now
Replies: 31
Views: 9328

Re: 8 Reasons You Should Stop Drinking Milk Now

One more reason not to drink milk is casomorphins. They cause physical dependence. When I went vegan, I experienced the symptoms of physical dependence. My parents said that was because my body didn't get enough nutrients. But casomorphins are not nutrients. They're drugs. I don't want to be a drug ...

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