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by AdamD
Oct 6, 2011 7:57 am
Forum: How to build a Vegan World
Topic: why people are not vegans?
Replies: 22
Views: 5920

Re: why people are not vegans?

Two reasons, I would say. Lack of knowledge and habit. Most people do not know what problems they inflict with their diets (and way of life), nor how unhealthy it is. We must understand that people have been eating meat for centuries and even though it makes people sick, it doesn't kill them direct...
by AdamD
Oct 6, 2011 7:51 am
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Humans can survive without meat... but how will they evolve?
Replies: 40
Views: 20022

Re: Humans can survive without meat... but how will they evo

More popular doesn't mean better. You can see this situation in Windows/Linux, Christianity/Buddhism, SA-MP/MTA and also omnivorous/vegan diet. The vast majority of people have health problems, so what, health problems cause the societies to last? Nowhere did I say that more popular means better, o...
by AdamD
Oct 6, 2011 7:41 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: Meat for survival
Replies: 20
Views: 6377

Re: Meat for survival

I never said they paid exceptionally high taxes, please don't try and put words in my mouth. Workers and companies involved in the meat industry pay generally the same taxes that any other industry does. You mention "everything that is wasted" but as I see it the meat industry is thriving ...
by AdamD
Oct 3, 2011 5:04 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: Meat for survival
Replies: 20
Views: 6377

Re: Meat for survival

The aforementioned illegal trades directly impact the wellbeing of fellow humans. The meat industry does not. Well, who pays subsidy money to keep this resource wasting industry alive? Of course, people who pay taxes. You seem not to have read my post. So, what about people who do not work in meat ...
by AdamD
Oct 3, 2011 5:02 am
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: How do you like your chicken?
Replies: 16
Views: 4710

Re: How do you like your chicken?

I like mine roasted, perhaps there is a correlation between eating chook and getting jokes. Eh, we'll never know :)
by AdamD
Oct 3, 2011 5:01 am
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Monsanto
Replies: 39
Views: 17420

Re: Monsanto

Your argument relies on correlation. Correlation does not imply causation so all of the above post is moot.
by AdamD
Oct 3, 2011 4:59 am
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: Defining Terms
Replies: 11
Views: 1967

Re: Defining Terms

"So although there's nothing wrong with using the word, it's generally not used in the context of people."
- Me


Please read the post you quote next time.
by AdamD
Oct 3, 2011 4:58 am
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: Vegan Ethics
Replies: 13
Views: 5790

Re: Vegan Ethics

The trucks used to move those products around most likely have leather seats. The product markings use government standard ink which contains animal products. There is no such thing as a vegan.
by AdamD
Oct 3, 2011 4:55 am
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: teasing for being a vegetarian
Replies: 25
Views: 4548

Re: teasing for being a vegetarian

If one of your arguments somehow stipulates that eating dead animals is somehow less evolved than eating dead plants then I think I understand why people are teasing you.
by AdamD
Oct 3, 2011 4:52 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan
Replies: 58
Views: 8620

Re: The Reason Why There Is No Such Thing As A Vegan

AdamD can you provide reference for each product that supposedly has animal ingredients and is used by vegans? Because most of the products you listed have vegan versions. Provide me a list of products "used by vegans" as well as their ingredients and I would be happy to let you know whet...
by AdamD
Sep 20, 2011 4:15 am
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Humans can survive without meat... but how will they evolve?
Replies: 40
Views: 20022

Re: Humans can survive without meat... but how will they evo

AdamD, the question is how will Human evolve without meat? And the answer is, humans will not evolve because of diet. They will "evolve" if something bad will happen to earth and most people will die and only some mutated humans will remain that will be fit to live in new conditions. That...
by AdamD
Sep 20, 2011 3:36 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: Any suggestions? I'm allergic to soy!
Replies: 13
Views: 6883

Re: Any suggestions? I'm allergic to soy!

The man clearly has a case of chronic caps.
by AdamD
Sep 20, 2011 3:31 am
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: Vegetarian Arrogance
Replies: 90
Views: 22348

Re: Vegetarian Arrogance

It's possible. I honestly feel that Vegetarianism or Veganism are more evolved states of awareness that most human beings are incapable of. I find this statement quite funny because it is meat allowed us to literally evolve to where we are now. As for whether or not veganism is a more enlightened s...
by AdamD
Sep 20, 2011 3:20 am
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: Vegetarian Arrogance
Replies: 90
Views: 22348

Re: Vegetarian Arrogance

There are always going to be arrogant people, regardless of what group they belong to. So of course there will be arrogant vegans who preach to thier friends, and arrogant meat eaters who join vegan forums in order to start arguments and tell others how superior their viewpoint is. My argument, alt...
by AdamD
Aug 28, 2011 3:15 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Is the loss of objectivity the death of the mind?
Replies: 1
Views: 2442

Re: Is the loss of objectivity the death of the mind?

Yes, your nature as a human being denotes enough potential for change and intellectual growth a human by their very existence as a human is superior to an animal.
by AdamD
Aug 28, 2011 3:13 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: I am vegan because I am Christian.
Replies: 31
Views: 20855

Re: I am vegan because I am Christian.

I agree with some of the thoughts of the above poster.
by AdamD
Aug 28, 2011 3:10 pm
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: How do you like your chicken?
Replies: 16
Views: 4710

Re: How do you like your chicken?

Or perhaps he's making a joke. Did that cross your mind at all? Even for a second?
by AdamD
Aug 28, 2011 3:08 pm
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: Meat for survival
Replies: 20
Views: 6377

Re: Meat for survival

A large number of people are dependent on smuggling, thievery, begging, drug pushing, gun-running and terrorism. Do we buy their products to help them? said Maneka Gandhi, Minister of the Environment (89-91), returned to Parliament in 1998 as the Minister of Welfare and was appointed as chairwoman ...
by AdamD
Aug 28, 2011 3:04 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Monsanto
Replies: 39
Views: 17420

Re: Monsanto

It doesn't have to make sense. He's fear mongering. Fear mongering? Come on. You're the one with the secret agenda if you don't think that Gmo's are dangerously harmful. I think that bio-dynamic farming should be the agricultural way of the future. In India, Peter Proctor has had a lot of success r...
by AdamD
Aug 12, 2011 4:58 am
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: Do you know any animal Hoarders?
Replies: 3
Views: 2608

Re: Do you know any animal Hoarders?

I'd love to respond but I can't type right now.

All 23 of my puppies and 17 of my kittens are crawling on my desk right now.
by AdamD
Aug 12, 2011 4:54 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: Ethical Vegan, perhaps
Replies: 2
Views: 880

Re: Ethical Vegan, perhaps

You've made a lifestyle choice. You shouldn't seek the affirmation of others as it is a purely personal descision. Call yourself whatever you want. As for your "kill it, cook it and eat it, then good luck on ya" policy. I work my arse off every day to get shiney pieces of metal called mone...
by AdamD
Aug 12, 2011 4:51 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: accidentally ate/bought whey
Replies: 9
Views: 2291

Re: accidentally ate/bought whey

Just eat it!

I do it all the time and I feel great :)
by AdamD
Aug 12, 2011 4:48 am
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: Defining Terms
Replies: 11
Views: 1967

Re: Defining Terms

lol... people can use words whenever or wherever they want to just be careful on hurting others' feelings... ;) Actually words have meanings, so although people 'can' use them whenever they want they'd be wrong in using them. When referring to non vegans you are generally referring to omnivores. :c...
by AdamD
Aug 12, 2011 4:45 am
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: Vegan Ethics
Replies: 13
Views: 5790

Re: Vegan Ethics

I'm sorry john but the point of that list was to illustrate that it is practically impossible to live a modern life and be a vegan.

I don't recommend it but some form of hermitage may fulfill your peaceful desires.
by AdamD
Aug 12, 2011 4:43 am
Forum: How to build a Vegan World
Topic: Steps to achieve a vegan world
Replies: 10
Views: 3597

Re: Steps to achieve a vegan world

Thanks pal.
by AdamD
Aug 12, 2011 4:42 am
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: teasing for being a vegetarian
Replies: 25
Views: 4548

Re: teasing for being a vegetarian

The fact that you talk about your own mother as well as your peers having a fatal heart attack in such a casual manner may indicate that you do actually need some mental help. Perhaps your mother was justified in saying what she said if you made your offensive attitude known to her.
by AdamD
Aug 12, 2011 4:40 am
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: Vegetarian Arrogance
Replies: 90
Views: 22348

Re: Vegetarian Arrogance

Your argument here dictates that eating creatures who can feel and experience the world around them means that a person lacks the qualities of empathy, compassion and common sense. This is an enormous generalisation against your fellow human beings and only serves to illustrate the extent that veget...
by AdamD
Aug 12, 2011 4:33 am
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: prevent other animals from killing and eating each other?
Replies: 38
Views: 26692

Re: prevent other animals from killing and eating each other

No we're not, we're hungry. We're a very hungry bunch and meat is a readily availible and efficient source of food. We kill animals in much more humane ways than animals kill eachother so out of all the omivorous species we're probably the least vindictive.
by AdamD
Aug 12, 2011 4:30 am
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: The circus is no fun for animals!
Replies: 14
Views: 3688

Re: The circus is no fun for animals!

To voice my opinion ANne, that's the point of a forum isn't it?
by AdamD
Aug 12, 2011 4:28 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan
Replies: 58
Views: 8620

Re: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan

dragonfly, spamming videos isn't addressing any of my points at all.
by AdamD
Jul 3, 2011 7:23 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan
Replies: 58
Views: 8620

Re: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan

Dragonfly, as much as he's pissing us all off, it would be extremely hypocritical of me to say that we are all equal and should have equal rights and treat everything with respect, and not treat Adam with respect. It would be hypocritical of me to demand that he respects me, if I do not respect him...
by AdamD
Jul 3, 2011 7:22 am
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Humans can survive without meat... but how will they evolve?
Replies: 40
Views: 20022

Re: Humans can survive without meat... but how will they evo

If meat eaters evolved, they would have discovered evolution, but they didn't. Also, humans are herbivores and this is made evident by the fact that there are no societies where everyone eats meat. Actually that proves that we're omnivores. Learn your vores mate :) Meat eating is more efficient so ...
by AdamD
Jul 3, 2011 7:16 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: Plants are no different than Animals
Replies: 52
Views: 17294

Re: Plants are no different than Animals

You can do that if you want, but I'm more than happy to eat plants AND animals :flower:
by AdamD
Jul 3, 2011 7:15 am
Forum: How to build a Vegan World
Topic: Steps to achieve a vegan world
Replies: 10
Views: 3597

Re: Steps to achieve a vegan world

Care about people, do not care what they think of you. And care about all living being, this is what makes you human. That's a rather crude definition of what make someone human. Also, do you care about the millions of bacteria you kill with each step? Of course not, they're living beings though. B...
by AdamD
Jul 3, 2011 7:12 am
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: The circus is no fun for animals!
Replies: 14
Views: 3688

Re: The circus is no fun for animals!

So your argument is that because animals don't do these things naturally they shouldn't do it?
People naturally hunt, kill and eat animals so why should we persecute poachers for trying to feed their families? It's only natural what they're doing and by your logic we shouldn't stop them.
by AdamD
Jul 3, 2011 7:10 am
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Monsanto
Replies: 39
Views: 17420

Re: Monsanto

It doesn't have to make sense. He's fear mongering.
by AdamD
May 25, 2011 6:31 pm
Forum: How to build a Vegan World
Topic: Steps to achieve a vegan world
Replies: 10
Views: 3597

Re: Steps to achieve a vegan world

I have an issue with the last few words in your post.

Vegans aren't cool.
Most people think they are obnoxious.
by AdamD
May 25, 2011 6:30 pm
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: Will wear Thong for Fur - Protest!
Replies: 10
Views: 6347

Re: Will wear Thong for Fur - Protest!

Only the above was interesting here.

The rest is just poor lonely people flirty with some skinny idiot not recognizing the practicality of fur for people living in harsh climates. Not to mention its obvious aesthetic appeal.
by AdamD
May 25, 2011 6:27 pm
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan
Replies: 58
Views: 8620

Re: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan

Sure you can call your lifestyle vegan if you want but so could I. We'd both be liars though :cyclopsani:
by AdamD
May 25, 2011 6:25 pm
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: Vegetarian Arrogance
Replies: 90
Views: 22348

Re: Vegetarian Arrogance

The justification of your claim that " That is fact and reality that people who do not eat sentient beings are morally superior because in their brain there is functioning such qualities as empathy, compassion and common sense." is flawed in the context because. A: Normal people do not eat...
by AdamD
May 20, 2011 6:20 pm
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: teasing for being a vegetarian
Replies: 25
Views: 4548

Re: teasing for being a vegetarian

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionso ... -and-milk/

Milk will not help you if you consume too much of it but that can be said about anything at all.
by AdamD
May 8, 2011 1:07 pm
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: teasing for being a vegetarian
Replies: 25
Views: 4548

Re: teasing for being a vegetarian

Drink a glass of milk a day but not too much more and you should be fine so long as you keep up a good dental routine.
by AdamD
May 8, 2011 1:05 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Monsanto
Replies: 39
Views: 17420

Re: Monsanto

That article was an interesting read to be sure, but it is only one article. Although I trust the FAO, perhaps it would be best to wait and see if more articles pop up in corroboration, maybe then these claims would be definitely worth taking action on. As for "living evidence", another wo...
by AdamD
May 5, 2011 6:27 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Monsanto
Replies: 39
Views: 17420

Re: Monsanto

I have several issues with the block of text you just posted. Off the bat, none of your claims are sourced or substantiated in any way. I don't generally expect sourcing from claims in forums but when you make quite large claims which actually do require some scientific basis it pays to provide sour...
by AdamD
May 5, 2011 5:52 pm
Forum: Veggie Questions and Answers
Topic: Bible state it is ok to kill animals for food
Replies: 20
Views: 8586

Re: Bible state it is ok to kill animals for food

I thought my exaggeration was quite clear but evidently not. Laughed out in the colloquial sense was meant to mean 'not even considered to begin with' however maybe you don't use the term where you live. Would you care to actually respond my claims beyond an colloquialism I made or not? What I'm try...
by AdamD
May 4, 2011 2:09 pm
Forum: Veganism And The Environment Forum
Topic: I hope I can be worth 15 seconds of your time,
Replies: 8
Views: 4684

Re: I hope I can be worth 15 seconds of your time,

What your mother did, and what you encourage her to do is obnoxious and rude as well as technically being theft. It does not surprise me that a person like you is drawn to an organization that openly admits to funding eco terrorism. Protesting outside KFC and McDonalds is an invasion of space and in...
by AdamD
May 4, 2011 2:05 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Monsanto
Replies: 39
Views: 17420

Re: Monsanto

It's interesting that agro ecology can double food production but agro ecology goes far beyond mere organic food. Agro ecology is a huge shift in focus for farming over abroad range of fields so it is misleading to claim that this report explicitly supports organic food. I'm not saying that you have...
by AdamD
May 4, 2011 1:59 pm
Forum: How to build a Vegan World
Topic: why people are not vegans?
Replies: 22
Views: 5920

Re: why people are not vegans?

The American Indians?? They were some of the best hunters in the world! They ate and used animals so much in day to day life that they never wasted a single part of any beast they slew. The reason that there is so little evidence for a comparison between vegi and non vegi societies survival rates is...
by AdamD
May 4, 2011 1:56 pm
Forum: Veggie Questions and Answers
Topic: Bible state it is ok to kill animals for food
Replies: 20
Views: 8586

Re: Bible state it is ok to kill animals for food

The bible has basically become the biggest choose your own adventure ever. You can interpret it any way you want so you can make it support any point you want. This makes it almost completely useless for supporting a point, for this reason if anyone uses the bible as support in a civilized modern de...
by AdamD
May 2, 2011 1:15 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Monsanto
Replies: 39
Views: 17420

Re: Monsanto

Claiming that organic food tastes better is subjective and contains not even a shred of argumentative merit. Would you please provide a source to back up your claims that science as we know it is a lie and that the UN has figured it out. Also what report are you referring to that "demonstrates ...
by AdamD
May 2, 2011 1:12 pm
Forum: Veggie Questions and Answers
Topic: Bible state it is ok to kill animals for food
Replies: 20
Views: 8586

Re: Bible state it is ok to kill animals for food

The forum is vegan meeting/discussion place sure, that doesn't mean I can't put forward a non vegan view does it?
by AdamD
May 2, 2011 1:12 pm
Forum: How to build a Vegan World
Topic: why people are not vegans?
Replies: 22
Views: 5920

Re: why people are not vegans?

Whether or not you think the arguement is "a bit duff" or not it still stands. Only societies that have adopted an omnivorous diet have survived and when it comes down to it that's the big question isn't it 'Can we survive and prosper the way we are'. Which ties in to your next point, ethi...
by AdamD
May 2, 2011 1:07 pm
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: How do you like your chicken?
Replies: 16
Views: 4710

Re: How do you like your chicken?

I have, I didn't like them but I dooo looooove chook!
by AdamD
May 2, 2011 1:07 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Humans can survive without meat... but how will they evolve?
Replies: 40
Views: 20022

Re: Humans can survive without meat... but how will they evo

VBryan could you please clarify what you are trying to say? Sure some primates eat mainly herbivorous diets but most if not all primates are to varying degrees omnivorous by nature. Back to people (human beings), our body is by no means herbivorous. We have several biological factors which indicate ...
by AdamD
May 2, 2011 1:00 pm
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan
Replies: 58
Views: 8620

Re: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan

First off the bat I'd just like to than Matt for encouraging actual argument rather than name-calling. Yeah rob I was referring to Dacite I think who mentioned powerful personalities, because power and happiness are two very different things. As for you feeling better, I know you aren't really using...
by AdamD
Apr 28, 2011 10:00 am
Forum: How to build a Vegan World
Topic: why people are not vegans?
Replies: 22
Views: 5920

Re: why people are not vegans?

An addiction implies that the substance one is 'addicted' to is not normal. Eating meat is normal for human beings. This is evident in our basic physiology for example our teeth, our intestinal tract and stomach and the variety and amount of chemicals we need to survive. Omnivorous diets have been t...
by AdamD
Apr 28, 2011 9:58 am
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Monsanto
Replies: 39
Views: 17420

Re: Monsanto

http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/07/29/us-food-organic-idUSTRE56S3ZJ20090729 This article as well as the study itself (it's interesting, read it) details how organic food has no nutritional o environmental benefits. I'm sorry but the science just isn't there supporting organic food and if you're ...
by AdamD
Apr 28, 2011 9:45 am
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: Do Not Apologize for Being Vegan
Replies: 15
Views: 6627

Re: Do Not Apologize for Being Vegan

Do you have any evidence to support that sweeping generalization you just made Dacite?
by AdamD
Apr 28, 2011 9:44 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan
Replies: 58
Views: 8620

Re: The Reason Why There Is No Such Thing As A Vegan

Being nice is good and all but it doesn't change the fact that most people who call themselves vegans actually aren't. As for intelligent/powerful people being nice, you seem to be very misguided. As for powerful people, I bet the CEO s of the modern super corporations didn't get there by being nice...
by AdamD
Apr 25, 2011 11:56 pm
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: Do Not Apologize for Being Vegan
Replies: 15
Views: 6627

Re: Do Not Apologize for Being Vegan

If you can't/won't argue your choice then it's not worth arguing over. I personally don't respect any of the justification of vegan-ism I have heard here or elsewhere, as a medical doctor I have had far more vegans come in with various deficiencies than I've had normal people come in with the same p...
by AdamD
Apr 25, 2011 11:48 pm
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: How do you like your chicken?
Replies: 16
Views: 4710

Re: How do you like your chicken?

You need to try the real deal!
by AdamD
Apr 25, 2011 11:47 pm
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: Plants are no different than Animals
Replies: 52
Views: 17294

Re: Plants are no different than Animals

Both of your videos are factually incorrect on several points, if you cared to actually formulate an argument rather than spamming then I'd be happy to explain how but I bet you don't even bother to read replies to your spam.
by AdamD
Apr 25, 2011 11:42 pm
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan
Replies: 58
Views: 8620

Re: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan

Dragonfly I'd appreciate it if you at least tried to formulate a coherent argument in any of my threads. Please just make an effort.
by AdamD
Apr 25, 2011 11:41 pm
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: teasing for being a vegetarian
Replies: 25
Views: 4548

Re: teasing for being a vegetarian

It turns out that they do.
by AdamD
Apr 23, 2011 8:36 am
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: teasing for being a vegetarian
Replies: 25
Views: 4548

Re: teasing for being a vegetarian

I didn't know spambots came in human flavour!
by AdamD
Apr 23, 2011 8:35 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: Plants are no different than Animals
Replies: 52
Views: 17294

Re: Plants are no different than Animals

Trees no longer want nor need humans to eat their fruit simply because people no longer spread the seeds within. Without meaning to sound crude, we don't crap in the bushes any more so we don't spread their seeds around ergo: Wasted fruit for the treeand a lost potential seed. As for fruit rotting, ...
by AdamD
Apr 16, 2011 12:40 pm
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: teasing for being a vegetarian
Replies: 25
Views: 4548

Re: teasing for being a vegetarian

Normal people tease vegans because it is fun and vegans can't usually deal with it.

I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying why.
by AdamD
Apr 15, 2011 5:11 pm
Forum: Veggie Questions and Answers
Topic: A matter of perspective
Replies: 26
Views: 4445

Re: A matter of perspective

Just highlighting the silliness of making any comparison to Nazism or any directly related events... Like the holocaust.

So yes.
by AdamD
Apr 15, 2011 5:09 pm
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: How do you like your chicken?
Replies: 16
Views: 4710

Re: How do you like your chicken?

If they do then science has taken hue leaps forward in Chicken creation technology.
by AdamD
Apr 14, 2011 7:37 am
Forum: Veggie Questions and Answers
Topic: A matter of perspective
Replies: 26
Views: 4445

Re: A matter of perspective

A) Then why is this website (and the label many 'vegans' give themselves) not 'almost'-vegan? It may not roll of the tongue but it's the truth. B) You're implying that being a Vegan is an inherently good thing like curing diseases is. It is not. Your comparison is wrong as is the message behind it. ...
by AdamD
Apr 14, 2011 7:25 am
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: Vegetarian Arrogance
Replies: 90
Views: 22348

Re: Vegetarian Arrogance

It's funny how when people can't adequately respond to intellectual challenges the fall back on repetitive mantras.
by AdamD
Apr 14, 2011 7:24 am
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: Free Range
Replies: 19
Views: 2665

Re: Free Range

First video is just dramatic music and pictures stuff that society has deemed to be acceptable. It's icky, but not 'wrong'. Second video is just a bunch of pseudo-facts presented by an exceedingly arrogant pig. The part about the jaw cracked me up as did the part about being able to catch prey with ...
by AdamD
Apr 12, 2011 10:22 am
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: Free Range
Replies: 19
Views: 2665

Re: Free Range

You're crazy. :D Really though, although you're entitled to an opinion and all you should be prepared to justify it. If every beings' life is just as important as the next that means that you would be just as upset about the death of an unknown insect as you would about an unknown person. This bring...
by AdamD
Apr 12, 2011 9:44 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: 8 Reasons You Should Stop Drinking Milk Now
Replies: 31
Views: 8605

Re: 8 Reasons You Should Stop Drinking Milk Now

This is borderline spamming pal, perhaps just think of something interesting to say or say nothing at all in this case.
by AdamD
Apr 12, 2011 9:43 am
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Why bother
Replies: 30
Views: 15638

Re: Why bother

Ah the old energy vibrations... they'll solve our problems for sure! :D

Can we please try and keep this discussion within the realms of possibility just out of mutual respect for each others intelligence.
by AdamD
Apr 12, 2011 9:41 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan
Replies: 58
Views: 8620

Re: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan

Thank you slola :)
"I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it" - Voltaire
by AdamD
Apr 10, 2011 6:45 pm
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: How do you like your chicken?
Replies: 16
Views: 4710

Re: How do you like your chicken?

Who has tried the KFC double...good god it was amazingly good!
by AdamD
Apr 10, 2011 6:44 pm
Forum: Veggie Questions and Answers
Topic: A matter of perspective
Replies: 26
Views: 4445

Re: A matter of perspective

Exactly my point, by creating an unambiguous definition of what a Vegan is based on their values, one can see that it is practically impossible to exist as one due to the immense amount of wastage/ impracticality. This doesn't mean that people can't try to be vegan, but to be a true vegan is borderi...
by AdamD
Apr 10, 2011 6:41 pm
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: 8 Reasons You Should Stop Drinking Milk Now
Replies: 31
Views: 8605

Re: 8 Reasons You Should Stop Drinking Milk Now

Nothing to say, dragonfly?
by AdamD
Apr 10, 2011 6:40 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Why bother
Replies: 30
Views: 15638

Re: Why bother

Paradise on Earth is fun and all, and call me a skeptic, but I think there are more pressing issues and hand. When it comes down to it the practical will always trump the philosophical. If I respect a wolf enough to let it into my home, will it respect me enough to not eat my children? Of course not...
by AdamD
Apr 10, 2011 6:37 pm
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: Vegetarian Arrogance
Replies: 90
Views: 22348

Re: Vegetarian Arrogance

I'm guessing that this means you couldn't formulate a coherent argument.
by AdamD
Apr 10, 2011 6:36 pm
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: Free Range
Replies: 19
Views: 2665

Re: Free Range

Is the meanie here the one who sees that the treatment of chickens is largely irrelevant for society as a whole or is it the one who compares the plight of chickens with that off 6 million (arguably) Jews, Gypsies and disabled people. Please don't try and compare chickens to the holocaust, there is ...
by AdamD
Apr 10, 2011 6:32 pm
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan
Replies: 58
Views: 8620

Re: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan

slola, I find it odd that you call my rather specific definition vague. My definition has several easily defined criteria which clearly divide vegans and non vegans. Words like "try their best" are ambiguous and lead to vague definitions. My definition is clear but the term itself in its m...
by AdamD
Apr 10, 2011 6:23 pm
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: The circus is no fun for animals!
Replies: 14
Views: 3688

Re: The circus is no fun for animals!

If the alternative is extinction Dacite, yes I would. Without preservation institutions like Zoos so many more species would be extinct. What you have to understand is that these animals have no right to life in the eyes of mother nature, if she had her way the dominant creature (us) would have hunt...
by AdamD
Apr 7, 2011 4:36 pm
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: Farmed animals are smart, interesting, and unique individual
Replies: 10
Views: 5177

Re: Farmed animals are smart, interesting, and unique indivi

I'm talking about relative importance, I'm happy to wear some fine leather shoes made from a cow that died screaming in pain so long as they accompany the suit I'm wearing for the conference I'm speaking at which will go toward lowering the rates of homelessness in my country.
by AdamD
Apr 7, 2011 4:34 pm
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: The circus is no fun for animals!
Replies: 14
Views: 3688

Re: The circus is no fun for animals!

Sure, that's a one off example of some psychopath being a psychopath. But what about the tens of thousands of other circus animals would could be having a great time swinging around and stuff? My point is that until we can place ourselves in the mind of an animal (which we can't), we can't claim to ...
by AdamD
Apr 7, 2011 4:32 pm
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: Free Range
Replies: 19
Views: 2665

Re: Free Range

Sure, we kill a lot of animals. So what. Society as a whole has decided that the large scale slaughter of animals isn't that big of a deal. This is made evident by the fact that little to no action has been taken against the meat industry. Or at least none that has had any effect lol. And if free ra...
by AdamD
Apr 7, 2011 4:29 pm
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan
Replies: 58
Views: 8620

Re: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan

Yet you're still the one calling me childish names, funny that.

Also, you still haven't elaborated on what "dronomatic" means. It's not really that important but please feel free to enlighten us lesser beings to your amazing linguistic makery uppery skills.
by AdamD
Apr 7, 2011 4:27 pm
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: 8 Reasons You Should Stop Drinking Milk Now
Replies: 31
Views: 8605

Re: 8 Reasons You Should Stop Drinking Milk Now

And so the ad hominem attacks continue, the really don't help your case at all. As much as cows are cute and nice to look at, when it comes down to it they are animals. Humans as an animal have been well established to be superior to lesser animals like cows. It is for this reason that killing a hum...
by AdamD
Apr 7, 2011 4:21 pm
Forum: Veggie Questions and Answers
Topic: A matter of perspective
Replies: 26
Views: 4445

Re: A matter of perspective

Ah, so you're arguing that because corn is, in some way or another, in almost everything we use it is wrong/wasteful to feed to animals? A similar strain of thought goes a little something like this, please excuse its slight off topicness: All of these products come from cattle From the top! Brain: ...
by AdamD
Apr 7, 2011 4:18 pm
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: Vegetarian Arrogance
Replies: 90
Views: 22348

Re: Vegan Arrogance

your perceptions are faulty. simple logic and commonsense does the trick here. there is no such thing as veggie arrogance, just the mindless childish perception of the fractured souls who are too afraid, too insecure, too brainwashed or too willfully ignorant to acknowledge the hideous, barbaric an...
by AdamD
Mar 27, 2011 4:20 am
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: Farmed animals are smart, interesting, and unique individual
Replies: 10
Views: 5177

Re: Farmed animals are smart, interesting, and unique indivi

Perhaps people who don't particularly care about non-human animals are too busy trying to solve more important problems that actually directly effect people.
by AdamD
Mar 27, 2011 4:14 am
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: How do you like your chicken?
Replies: 16
Views: 4710

Re: How do you like your chicken?

At least get some subtlety to your trolling like I do.

Jeez...amateur.
by AdamD
Mar 27, 2011 4:12 am
Forum: Veggie Questions and Answers
Topic: A matter of perspective
Replies: 26
Views: 4445

Re: A matter of perspective

I see what you're saying, but what you are implying is that people feed animals solely foodstuffs suitable for human consumption. When you get down to the practical side of things most of the time the food that farm animals eat is not suitable for human consumption i.e.: Grass. If we fed sheep mushr...
by AdamD
Mar 24, 2011 2:16 pm
Forum: Veggie Questions and Answers
Topic: A matter of perspective
Replies: 26
Views: 4445

Re: A matter of perspective

Perhaps you could add some substance to your post actually citing some scientific truth rather than asking me to learn "physics".

Of course it's simple, it's not like I'm going to spend a large portion of my time trying to enlighten such a small part of society.
by AdamD
Mar 23, 2011 6:08 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: Plants are no different than Animals
Replies: 52
Views: 17294

Re: Plants are no different than Animals

Nice name calling, really showing the maturity there, I'm guessing that means you forfeit the argument to me then? logical fallacy, your "crossroads" logic is pointless, the disinformation/thick propaganda is quite silly and incorrect. more gradeschool shenanigans from the witless troll. ...
by AdamD
Mar 23, 2011 6:06 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: 8 Reasons You Should Stop Drinking Milk Now
Replies: 31
Views: 8605

Re: 8 Reasons You Should Stop Drinking Milk Now

Both of your "sources" that you presented just then dragon fly appeal to the emotions of people very heavily, this is a surefire sign of a dodgy source.

here's a guide to sources that I found quite useful: http://www.lib.mq.edu.au/research/critical.html.
by AdamD
Mar 23, 2011 6:03 am
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: Free Range
Replies: 19
Views: 2665

Re: Free Range

Not that I said "more trivial" this is a relative term.

Or would you say that stopping the death of a pig is more important then stopping the rape of a human being?
by AdamD
Mar 23, 2011 6:01 am
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: Vegetarian Arrogance
Replies: 90
Views: 22348

Re: Vegetarian Arrogance

Hence the perceived arrogance due to inconvenience.

/thread
by AdamD
Mar 23, 2011 6:00 am
Forum: Veggie Questions and Answers
Topic: A matter of perspective
Replies: 26
Views: 4445

Re: A matter of perspective

It's basic logic dragonfly, allow me to explain.


You have two sources of food: Food A and Food B
A=1
B=1

At the moment you can eat both ergo
Food = A+B
A + B = 2

BUT wait, someone took away food source B
A=1
B=0
Food = A=B
A+B= 1

Simple.
by AdamD
Mar 23, 2011 5:58 am
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: prevent other animals from killing and eating each other?
Replies: 38
Views: 26692

Re: prevent other animals from killing and eating each other

Veggies aren't green either (excuse the pun).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc7whecqvw8


I wonder what runs those machines?
by AdamD
Mar 23, 2011 5:56 am
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Why bother
Replies: 30
Views: 15638

Re: Why bother

Exactly my point circular, the argument he presented is flawed.

Just because someone cares or doesn't care doesn't define the importance of a particular subject.
by AdamD
Mar 23, 2011 5:54 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan
Replies: 58
Views: 8620

Re: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan

Fair call philosopher, this idea of not labeling yourself as a vegan but rather just subscribing to that way of life makes a fair bit of sense. Calling me a "lowbow narrowminded dronomatic troll, willfully ignorant of the truth behind the sadistic cruelty and horrific, brutal , barbaric sufferi...
by AdamD
Mar 23, 2011 5:48 am
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Humans can survive without meat... but how will they evolve?
Replies: 40
Views: 20022

Re: Humans can survive without meat... but how will they evo

Just highlighting the distinct lack argumentative skill exhibited when arguing with someone who clearly doesn't want to argue back.

It's like pushing over a puppy. Whyyyyyyyyyy?
by AdamD
Mar 23, 2011 5:46 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: Any suggestions? I'm allergic to soy!
Replies: 13
Views: 6883

Re: Any suggestions? I'm allergic to soy!

Interesting, what was that about the soy? I haven't really heard that before.
by AdamD
Mar 17, 2011 10:41 am
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Humans can survive without meat... but how will they evolve?
Replies: 40
Views: 20022

Re: Humans can survive without meat... but how will they evo

Picking on the guy who clearly said he didn't want to get into an argument due to his self professed like of argumentative skills.
Stay classy.
by AdamD
Mar 17, 2011 10:39 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan
Replies: 58
Views: 8620

Re: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan

Yes, please continue to change your definition of vegan to fit your argument.

Who knows, perhaps in a decade everyone will be a 'vegan', I bet there will still be a thriving meat industry anyway if you keep on changing the meaning of the word.
by AdamD
Mar 17, 2011 10:37 am
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: prevent other animals from killing and eating each other?
Replies: 38
Views: 26692

Re: prevent other animals from killing and eating each other

So by taking away meat (theoretically of course) from third world countries you aren't depriving them of anything...


Riiiiiiiiiiight



Also, a macaroon is a small confectionery, as sweet as I am I don't think it's an apt description for me.
by AdamD
Mar 17, 2011 10:35 am
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: Vegan Ethics
Replies: 13
Views: 5790

Re: Vegan Ethics

Thank you for not bothering, because if you did would probably have to explain the concept of relativistic ethics and that would be a pain in the bum.
by AdamD
Mar 17, 2011 10:34 am
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: The circus is no fun for animals!
Replies: 14
Views: 3688

Re: The circus is no fun for animals!

How do you know for sure that the circus isn't fun for animals? If they can feel suffering then they must be able to feel pleasure as well. How can you ask such question! Clearly animals for circus are slave to human illusion of superiorness, we must not enslave animals for own furtherment or enjoy...
by AdamD
Mar 17, 2011 10:30 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: 8 Reasons You Should Stop Drinking Milk Now
Replies: 31
Views: 8605

Re: 8 Reasons You Should Stop Drinking Milk Now

Please source your claims with some sources that aren't completely biased like dragonflys'.

Arguing from the point of the status-quo I don't have the obligation to source my arguments in support of it.
by AdamD
Mar 17, 2011 10:27 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: Plants are no different than Animals
Replies: 52
Views: 17294

Re: Plants are no different than Animals

"Most vegans and vegetarians I know enjoy making their own food. If they go over to a friends house for dinner they bring something, as to not "inconvenience" the host. I am more concerned about inconveniencing hundreds of farmed animals per year by eating them." So your beliefs ...
by AdamD
Mar 17, 2011 10:24 am
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: Vegetarian Arrogance
Replies: 90
Views: 22348

Re: Vegetarian Arrogance

So now you need a whole restaurant devoted to you?


Problem not solved.
by AdamD
Mar 17, 2011 10:22 am
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: Free Range
Replies: 19
Views: 2665

Re: Free Range

Referring to more trivial matters as rape degrades the significance of actual rape. As terrible as some people see the treatment of chickens to be, please show some respect to the multitude of human beings who are raped by others. Fair enough on your point about not defining yourself as a vegan but ...
by AdamD
Mar 17, 2011 10:18 am
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: Man shoots and kills pet parrot for 'being annoying'
Replies: 24
Views: 4921

Re: Man shoots and kills pet parrot for 'being annoying'

dragonfly, I see you cannot actually reply to my comment so you resort to yet more name calling.

Either respond to my comments in a way that goes beyond calling me a "drunken troll" or kindly concede the debate.
by AdamD
Mar 17, 2011 10:16 am
Forum: Veggie Questions and Answers
Topic: A matter of perspective
Replies: 26
Views: 4445

Re: A matter of perspective

The idea that taking away meat as a possible source of food will not adversely affect poor people is also not true.
by AdamD
Mar 11, 2011 1:47 pm
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: 8 Reasons You Should Stop Drinking Milk Now
Replies: 31
Views: 8605

Re: 8 Reasons You Should Stop Drinking Milk Now

Cheap is a relative term, for an average middle class person 2.79 is fine. For the kind of person who needs to make their own food, perhaps not. Please stop taking claims out of context, milk is a foodstuff, not a disease, ergo your comparison is terribad. The error is on your part. You are using t...
by AdamD
Mar 11, 2011 1:42 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Humans can survive without meat... but how will they evolve?
Replies: 40
Views: 20022

Re: Humans can survive without meat... but how will they evo

Sable that is an extremely well constructed idea. With some experts in the field to back it up your idea would develop even better than it already has.

Bravo sir, you've obviously put a lot of time and thought into the construction of your ideas and it really shows. Well done!
by AdamD
Mar 11, 2011 1:34 pm
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: Plants are no different than Animals
Replies: 52
Views: 17294

Re: Plants are no different than Animals

Haha, so now you get to change the question, typical. This is an exercise in futility, your concept of 'good' could be completely different to mine so there is very little point in me even trying. But for the sake of meat worldwide: Meat is a social acceptable and readily available source of essenti...
by AdamD
Mar 11, 2011 1:25 pm
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: Vegetarian Arrogance
Replies: 90
Views: 22348

Re: Vegetarian Arrogance

"I would rather suffer some "embarrassment" than be responsible for the torture and gruesome murder of living beings", there you have it, you are fine with inconveniencing chefs etc at normal restaurants; and there's nothing inherently wrong with that. It would be naive, however,...
by AdamD
Mar 11, 2011 3:07 am
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: Vegetarian Arrogance
Replies: 90
Views: 22348

Re: Vegetarian Arrogance

Before this discussion becomes any more convoluted with incorrect terminology listen and pay heed. !!!!!!BASIC WORD DEFINITION TIME!!!!!! Carnivore: A carnivore , meaning 'meat eater' (Latin carne meaning 'flesh' and vorare meaning 'to devour'), is an organism that derives its energy and nutrient re...
by AdamD
Mar 11, 2011 2:45 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan
Replies: 58
Views: 8620

Re: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan

You're forgiven daraalt.

I clearly have interest in the topic of Veganism I just haven't chosen it to be part of my lifestyle and it confuses me why anyone would. Therein lies my interest, I am on a quest to not only find a real vegan but to get a logical set of reasons behind their lifestyle.
by AdamD
Mar 10, 2011 4:18 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan
Replies: 58
Views: 8620

Re: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan

Roll your eyes and call names all you will, the definition of a vegan is: A person who does not consume, use or eat any animal products. Using this definition (please feel free to share your own), many people who claim to be vegans are not, in fact, vegans at all. I am also slightly amused by the fa...
by AdamD
Mar 10, 2011 4:14 am
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: Plants are no different than Animals
Replies: 52
Views: 17294

Re: Plants are no different than Animals

Nice name calling, really showing the maturity there, I'm guessing that means you forfeit the argument to me then? As for me not belonging here, I think you're just upset because your poorly chosen lifestyle is being questioned by someone and you can't defend yourself argumentatively. If you can't d...
by AdamD
Mar 10, 2011 4:11 am
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: Man shoots and kills pet parrot for 'being annoying'
Replies: 24
Views: 4921

Re: Man shoots and kills pet parrot for 'being annoying'

Please try to refrain from name calling dragonfly. I'm not saying what the guy did was the right thing to do, in fact it was a very stupid thing to do. However using sweeping generalizations like "there was no earthly reason" is just inviting me to poke holes in the statement. What right d...
by AdamD
Mar 10, 2011 4:04 am
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: prevent other animals from killing and eating each other?
Replies: 38
Views: 26692

Re: prevent other animals from killing and eating each other

So why would you deprive them of a readily available source of importable food.

(I only say importable because most third world countries don't have thriving meat industries of their own)
by AdamD
Mar 9, 2011 2:13 pm
Forum: Veggie Questions and Answers
Topic: A matter of perspective
Replies: 26
Views: 4445

Re: A matter of perspective

Please try and understand globalization before you post next time. Heck, not even globalization just trade. The food supply all around the world is connected in the globalized world because of the enormous amount of trade. Ergo, when meat production slows down somewhere, everyone gets less food. Als...
by AdamD
Mar 9, 2011 2:10 pm
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: Plants are no different than Animals
Replies: 52
Views: 17294

Re: Plants are no different than Animals

Philosopher, your above post proves your specism. "I also consider humans to be worth more than carrots" Please try and be less hypocritical in the future. Sound argument for meat eating: I can and I like it. Now you could do what you usually do and say: " You can also murder kittens ...
by AdamD
Mar 9, 2011 2:06 pm
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: Man shoots and kills pet parrot for 'being annoying'
Replies: 24
Views: 4921

Re: Man shoots and kills pet parrot for 'being annoying'

I have never tried to deny that I value the human race above all others.
This is not a bad thing.
by AdamD
Mar 9, 2011 2:05 pm
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: 8 Reasons You Should Stop Drinking Milk Now
Replies: 31
Views: 8605

Re: 8 Reasons You Should Stop Drinking Milk Now

Cheap is a relative term, for an average middle class person 2.79 is fine.
For the kind of person who needs to make their own food, perhaps not.

Please stop taking claims out of context, milk is a foodstuff, not a disease, ergo your comparison is terribad.
by AdamD
Mar 9, 2011 2:03 pm
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: Meat for survival
Replies: 20
Views: 6377

Re: Meat for survival

I think you are misinterpreting what he said to further your own argument. That guy is talking in practical terms, within the realm of his own theoretical argument of course. In the transitional stage between meat based industry and vegetable based industry people would lose jobs. You have no right ...
by AdamD
Mar 9, 2011 2:01 pm
Forum: General Conversations
Topic: Free Range
Replies: 19
Views: 2665

Re: Free Range

"For some reason I doubt chickens are often raped" You must not know anything about egg production. Is it true that vegans can substitute free-range products to factory farmed animal products? I know a vegan who chooses to eat eggs from her own personal chicken. You can do whatever you li...
by AdamD
Mar 9, 2011 1:58 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: I am vegan because I am Christian.
Replies: 31
Views: 20855

Re: I am vegan because I am Christian.

Sure, buy many more chose to eat meat. What's your point?



(Although I do agree a lot with the top of your post)
by AdamD
Mar 7, 2011 4:29 pm
Forum: Veggie Questions and Answers
Topic: A matter of perspective
Replies: 26
Views: 4445

Re: A matter of perspective

Like I said in another threat, until you can instantly remove meat based food infrastructure and replace it with veggy based food infrastructure all of this talk is useless. If you want practical results you need to think in practical terms.
by AdamD
Mar 7, 2011 4:25 pm
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: Plants are no different than Animals
Replies: 52
Views: 17294

Re: Plants are no different than Animals

Sure, I mean if you wanted you could take pills all day and cut out the eating aspect all together!
by AdamD
Mar 7, 2011 4:24 pm
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan
Replies: 58
Views: 8620

Re: The reason why there is no such thing as a vegan

Thanks, if I knew how to upload images to this site like you do that would have saved me a lot of time and sore fingers.
by AdamD
Mar 7, 2011 4:22 pm
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: Man shoots and kills pet parrot for 'being annoying'
Replies: 24
Views: 4921

Re: Man shoots and kills pet parrot for 'being annoying'

And your blatant namecalling reveals an amazing lack of argumentative talent. To begin with: Stupid is a relative term, compared to the other character in this situation (the man) the parrot is stupid. If you don't understand that a parrot is far less intelligent than a man then please feel free to ...
by AdamD
Mar 7, 2011 4:19 pm
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: 8 Reasons You Should Stop Drinking Milk Now
Replies: 31
Views: 8605

Re: 8 Reasons You Should Stop Drinking Milk Now

frank911 wrote:no matter what any one says. i have been drinking milk all my life and i am not going to stop.

Hurray!
A fellow milk drinker, cheers mate!
by AdamD
Mar 7, 2011 4:16 pm
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: prevent other animals from killing and eating each other?
Replies: 38
Views: 26692

Re: prevent other animals from killing and eating each other

Well sure but until you invent a magic want which removes all of the existing meat based food infrastructure and replace it with veggy based food infrastructure there isn't even much point discussing this. If you want real change you have to think in the real world.
by AdamD
Mar 7, 2011 4:13 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Why bother
Replies: 30
Views: 15638

Re: Why bother

Responding purely to your synthesis of his argument of: It matters because we care. Logically that means that it doesn't matter because I don't care (not me as in myself just as in anyone). Unsubstantial claims can be dismissed insubstantially.
by AdamD
Feb 11, 2011 3:34 pm
Forum: Veggie Questions and Answers
Topic: A matter of perspective
Replies: 26
Views: 4445

Re: A matter of perspective

If you're trying to say that because we're reducing slaughtering animals, we're contributing to world hunger, that is very skewed and flawed information. Not only to we have enough food RIGHT NOW to feed the world many times over, but removing livestock and poultry will not hinder this at all, eith...
by AdamD
Feb 11, 2011 3:30 pm
Forum: Vegan Chat
Topic: Oohhhhh my God I slipped up so badly....and now I'm paying
Replies: 18
Views: 3884

Re: Oohhhhh my God I slipped up so badly....and now I'm payi

You should slip up more often Mr.Snog.

I have bacon and eggs with a nice cold glass of milk every morning and I'm a happy healthy young man!
:cheers:
by AdamD
Feb 11, 2011 3:28 pm
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: Man shoots and kills pet parrot for 'being annoying'
Replies: 24
Views: 4921

Re: Man shoots and kills pet parrot for 'being annoying'

meign wrote:Because I can see that you still cares for him even though he did something wrong... that's so sweet of you...

Yes, damn my forgiveness.
How dare I care for my fellow man.
Crucify him!
All hail animal rights!
by AdamD
Feb 11, 2011 3:26 pm
Forum: Animal Rights Forum
Topic: prevent other animals from killing and eating each other?
Replies: 38
Views: 26692

Re: prevent other animals from killing and eating each other

So...it's ok for any other animal that wants to eat meat to do so except for the human animal? If the reasoning behind this is that non-human animals have it as instinct well, so do people. When a species eats meat for pretty much it's entire excistence not only does it become the social norm, it a...
by AdamD
Feb 11, 2011 3:22 pm
Forum: Science, Philosophy, Religion
Topic: Historical material
Replies: 4
Views: 2803

Re: Historical material

The story of Cain and Abel leaps to mind. This is almost concrete evidence right off the bat. But you're right in that the bible contradicts itself on the matter quite a bit, hence it is inconclusive and not a valid source to use for either argument.

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