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Vegan Talk Topic - Why don't you drink milk or eat cheese?
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BigBecka
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Posted: Mar 18, 2007 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Personally I believe that exercise isn't the last factor in having strong bones.
I think this is very true. I used to have pain in my joints a lot, and I was told it was an precursor or early form of arthritus; my mother and my doctor told me to rest a lot, and not to do high-impact exercise. When I was a teenager I got fed up with being fat and never going out, so my Dad bought me a bicycle which we repaired together, and I went out cycling nearly every day that summer, as well as going walking with my Dad. My mother was horrified, and my parents argued a lot about it. But I lost a lot of weight and the pain in my joints reduced. I started going to the gym when I was old enough, and a gym instructor noticed that I didn't walk properly (my thighs had been so fat that I sort of staggered) - he taught me to walk on a treadmill, and got me using weights, which helps strengthen your bones aswell as muscle. It was he who suggested I take up kickboxing. Now my joints hardly hurt at all, and I get to enjoy life too I suspect the pain was partially caused by my weight, or maybe something that I was eating... I don't know if I might get arthritus badly when I'm older, but, I'd rather be in a wheelchair at 60 than have a heart attack at 40!

Which reminds me, I need to stop surfing the net so much, and bring my bike out of the garage for summer

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Here the situation is even worse... many people just don't care what they eat.
That's not good I bet they care when they see those photos of you doing one-handed handstands

I know a few people who still behave like this: they seem to convince themselves that any health problems they have are genetic, or pre-ordained in some way. People often confuse a healthy life-style with extreme fad dieting and eating disorders. I even know people who consider themselves "above" being healthy, and think that they're superior to people who are healthy - they laugh at people who do exercise, are proud of their huge bellies, and order unhealthy food as if to make a point I think they are sometimes jealous and insecure though
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AndyBa
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Posted: Mar 21, 2007 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigBecka wrote:

I know a few people who still behave like this: they seem to convince themselves that any health problems they have are genetic, or pre-ordained in some way. People often confuse a healthy life-style with extreme fad dieting and eating disorders. I even know people who consider themselves "above" being healthy, and think that they're superior to people who are healthy - they laugh at people who do exercise, are proud of their huge bellies, and order unhealthy food as if to make a point I think they are sometimes jealous and insecure though


That is so true... I so much hate when people leave their fate to their genes.
There are also those people that complain every day about how bad they feel and yet do absolutely nothing about it..

Regarding the bicycle Where do you usually ride it?
I went roller skating a couple of weeks ago, and the back wheel, which I usually use for braking, just broke in the middle of my skating...
imagine how i had to get back home!!
had no spare boots...
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The human body has no more need for cows' milk than it does for dogs' milk, horses' milk, or giraffes' milk. ~Michael Klaper, M.D., author of Vegan Nutrition: Pure & Simple
BigBecka
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Posted: Mar 24, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL!!! I can't skate at all (no sense of balance at all!), but if I go out wearing high-heels I usually carry my trusty baseball boots in a bag for such emergencies Where do you skate - in the city?

Well, I don't cycle much any more. The roads around here are still narrow and windy, but there are more people living here now so there are a LOT of cars. And people aren't very bike-friendly either. So it gets pretty scary! Last year I started getting up early and cycling to work when the roads were still quiet, so I think I'll start doing that again now it's a bit warmer and lighter. But I REALLY want to get in shape and try some of the mountain biking trails round here - it looks so cool! Where I live now is fairly close to Exmoor, and the south coast and North Devon coastal paths. And I normally drive down to Cornwall at least once a year, which still has a lot of wild, unspoilt countryside (and surf!). I'm really lucky to live here, so I ought to make the most of it

I've just been looking at these places on Google Earth - I can't wait for the summer glasses7
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Posted: Mar 26, 2007 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes in the city... but not on the roads.. drivers are quite..hm.. in a hurry around here..

I usually get to a place near a lake were I have plenty of space for skating.

....mountain biking... I've only dreamed of it
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Posted: May 17, 2007 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rac_box wrote:
I don't agree. Why shouldn't we drink milk or cheese? They are some very healthy aliments, rich in Calcium. If people consume them for a few thousand years, and there wasn't any loss in cow numbers, I think that this shouldn't be a problem for anyone!


Milk is not a good source of calcium.

It does contain a lot of calcium but it also contains a lot of protein.

Excess protein prevents your body from absorbing calcium.

Therefore, time-average, you don't get a lot of calcium.




I don't drink milk because it tastes like crap unless it's completely fresh and frigid in temperature. Both Cheese and Milk turn me into phlegm-boy.

Also, my family is a perfect example of those who consume such a diet.
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Posted: Sep 9, 2007 5:20 am    Post subject: Re: Why don't you drink milk or eat cheese? Reply with quote

KingFisher9 wrote:
A cow needs to be milked in order to live why don't you drink it?


I don't drink milk or eat cheese because the cows providing it are mistreated and then brutally tortured and murdered. The same goes for eggs and honey. I do not believe that any animal or living being deserves to die or hurt in any way so that I can eat. If it doesn't have roots or isn't 100% derived from something that has roots (to include sea vegetables), I don't eat it. I also don't use any products in my home that contain any animal (or possible animal) products. Veganism is a VERY compassionate lifestyle. It can be hard sometimes in today's world, but it's a very important thing to do both compassionately and environmentally. The vegan lifestyle is worth everything that meat-eaters think that we're losing out on. I find that it's the meat-eaters that are losing out on. Come on, most don't even know their basic grains because it's just a side dish to them. Which is okay for them because that's how they like it. But for me and my fellow vegans, we choose to love all beings as we love ourselves and our house pets.
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