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AndyBa · Lord of the posts Joined: 27 May 2001 Posts: 670

Fragment from Effective Advocacy of Animal Rights
by Bruce Friedrich
www.goveg.com

Another way that we limit ourselves is by apologizing or minimalizing. I have heard it said that it’s acceptable if someone asks why you are a vegetarian to say, “It’s a personal decision and I don’t want to talk about it.” How does that help animals? How would anyone, hearing that answer, ever come to realize that this is a moral issue? They won’t—they’ll think it’s just your own personal quirk.

Also, never say that your diet is just about your health, and never say that it’s just about the environment. You can raise those issues in addition, of course. But always, always, always talk about the effect on animals. We’ll never get to animal liberation if the only people adopting a vegetarian diet are doing so for selfish reasons. And always, when someone asks why you’re a vegetarian, explain it to them, even if the situation requires brevity.
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The human body has no more need for cows' milk than it does for dogs' milk, horses' milk, or giraffes' milk. ~Michael Klaper, M.D., author of Vegan Nutrition: Pure & Simple

GreenBro · Passionated Vegan Talker Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 183

here we can evidentiate 2 points of view!
1 it`s about personal integrity and personal morality!
2 from point of veggan interest

ech person has own education... and the factors that makes him to be like he is we cann not say to him: what`s with you man .. cammon do it ... or somth like this! he choose what`s better for him!
offcourse for well developing vegan culture we must be free to speak about who are we ... what we think it`s normal what`s good ! otherwise noone will know about that somthing like this exists!

AndyBa · Lord of the posts Joined: 27 May 2001 Posts: 670

Hey GreenBro! Thanks for bumping this topic.
Most of my veggie life, I was a passive vegetarian, with the attitude - just leave me alone... so I was telling everyone something like, it's personal blah blah.. and in 10 years I forgot myself why I was vegetarian, I was doing it only because of the habit... I knew that there was a great reason why I became, but I really couldn't convince anyone at that moment. Cause I didn't think about it for many years, and to be sincere I started to have doubts. One day I stumbled across Peta website and then other vegan sites with all the Animal Rights motivations and answers. I was so exited, my only thoughts were, this have to be spread to as many people as possible.

Conclusion - to get rid of the "Leave me alone" attitude one have to study more about Animal Rights.. even on vegtalk.org there are a lot of answers to tricky questions and none veg statements.
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The human body has no more need for cows' milk than it does for dogs' milk, horses' milk, or giraffes' milk. ~Michael Klaper, M.D., author of Vegan Nutrition: Pure & Simple

BigBecka · Animal defender Joined: 02 Dec 2006 Posts: 412

I started off quite genuinely eating vegan for health reasons, but since I'm now finding out / remembering about the animal rights side of things, I've started slipping it into the conversation

I was a little worried about coming across a bit over-sensitive at work, or starting some massive arguement about farming - some people can still be a little prejudiced

but I've been really surprised by the positive reaction I've had. Whilst being very careful to stay polite and matter-of-fact of course

Red Jester · Posted: May 17, 2007 5:21 am Post subject:

I began eating Vegan for spiritual reasons. Health came second. The enviroment came third. Animals came last.

I have become more compassionate now for animals.

My point is, you can't sell anything you don't beleive in. People won't buy anything unless there's a "need" inside them.
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Vegan Forums Guest · Posted: Jan 20, 2008 11:04 am Post subject:

First 10 times it was fun answering questions.
But after I just became tired of arguing.

sceptic · Vegan Forums Guest

What if I'm really vegan for health reasons?